[00:00:00] Speaker 03: Case number 20-7033. [00:00:03] Speaker 03: Mikola Ivanenko et al. [00:00:05] Speaker 03: A balance versus Viktor Yanukovych et al. [00:00:08] Speaker 03: Mr. McCallion for the balance, Mr. Shaw for the appellee government of Ukraine. [00:00:15] Speaker 03: Good morning, council. [00:00:16] Speaker 03: Council for Appellants, do you wish to start? [00:00:20] Speaker 01: Yes, good morning. [00:00:21] Speaker 01: May it please the court, Kenneth McCallion for plaintiff appellants, Luke's Express, the Alamo group, [00:00:30] Speaker 01: and also including Mr. and Mrs. Ivanenko. [00:00:35] Speaker 01: We believe the district courts decision and order should be reversed as to all appellants. [00:00:43] Speaker 01: However, we believe the clearest case for reversal is as to the Alamo group since there is obviously no domestic taking issue there. [00:00:56] Speaker 01: The Alamo group was and is a [00:01:00] Speaker 01: US Georgia-based corporation and a de facto joint venture with Lutz Express in a automobile sales operation, import-export operation located in Kiev, Ukraine. [00:01:20] Speaker 01: The Alamo Group had offices there in Ukraine, just as Lutz Express had offices in Atlanta, Georgia. [00:01:29] Speaker 01: at the Alamo Group's offices there. [00:01:33] Speaker 01: And in addition, the Alamo Group maintained in the Ukraine property certain automobiles, auto parts, and other inventory which had been imported into Ukraine from the US. [00:01:53] Speaker 01: In July of 2012, [00:01:58] Speaker 01: The buildings were destroyed on that property and also valuable property was taken by agents and instrumentalities of Ukraine at the direction of an instrumentality, an agency of the Ukraine government, Southwestern Railway. [00:02:21] Speaker 01: At that time, property was taken [00:02:27] Speaker 01: from the Alamo Group. [00:02:29] Speaker 01: And this was in violation of international law, not only because they weren't compensated, but it was in direct violation of a bilateral treaty between Ukraine and the United States, whereby Alamo Group and other US companies were induced [00:02:54] Speaker 01: were reassured to do business in Ukraine that there would be a judicial remedy available to them in the event as what happened to your property was taken and expropriated. [00:03:10] Speaker 01: Ukraine's position and apparently that of the district court was that the Alamo group, this US company, does not have [00:03:22] Speaker 01: recourse under the bilateral treaty, which by its language permits an agreed party recourse to the courts of a party to the treaty, Ukraine or the US. [00:03:40] Speaker 01: And in this particular case, the Alamo group, as well as the Ukraine defendants, did not have adequate recourse [00:03:51] Speaker 01: to the Ukraine courts, because at this particular time, both the courts and the government were controlled by a pro-Russian anti-US and anti-Western European government that discriminated against US companies. [00:04:13] Speaker 01: And the judicial system, the rule of law, was not [00:04:20] Speaker 01: vibrant at that particular time since the courts were, as well as the government, was subject to rampant corruption and political influence on the judicial system. [00:04:35] Speaker 01: So the taking here for purposes of the commercial exception to the FSIA [00:04:47] Speaker 01: was not as the district court found, it erroneously found unfortunately that the taking was for a public purpose, the construction of a bridge. [00:05:01] Speaker 01: However, as we argued in our complaints as well as in our papers, while the ostensible purpose was for the building of a bridge, this was a subterfuge [00:05:17] Speaker 01: And indeed a bridge was never built. [00:05:21] Speaker 01: That was a subterfuge for a commercial purpose, namely the taking of the property and its use for for-profit commercial activity, a sports arena for the personal benefit of some of the individual defendants. [00:05:43] Speaker 01: The taking here of the Alamo Group's property, as well as that of Luke's Express and the Ukrainian individual plaintiffs had a direct effect in the United States, which as the case law indicates must be more than trivial. [00:06:08] Speaker 01: In this case, the financial impact [00:06:11] Speaker 01: was devastating both on the Alamo Group and Lutz Express, which maintained an office in Georgia and had to close that after the destruction of its property in Ukraine. [00:06:29] Speaker 01: The Alamo Group was in essence the controlling party of the Ukraine company, Lutz Express, [00:06:40] Speaker 01: through various loans and financial arrangements, which, of course, Lukes Express could no longer fulfill those obligations. [00:06:48] Speaker 01: And this led to a devastating cascading effect on Alamo Group, which had significant lines of credit secured by property in the United States. [00:07:00] Speaker 01: And it was of its business was virtually destroyed. [00:07:04] Speaker 01: The lion's share of its business was with this Ukraine operation [00:07:10] Speaker 01: which was completely destroyed and the inventory taken in July of 2012. [00:07:16] Speaker 01: I would like to point out that the defendant here, Ukraine, of course takes the position that this was a domestic taking. [00:07:35] Speaker 01: We can't apply that argument to the Alamo group, but it applies it [00:07:39] Speaker 01: to Luke's Express and the individual defendants. [00:07:43] Speaker 01: However, we would point out that we believe the only way that the bilateral treaty can have any teeth or any impact would be for Alamo Group to have a judicial remedy. [00:07:59] Speaker 01: And also that Luke's Express and the individual, even ENCO, [00:08:06] Speaker 01: plaintiffs who are in the US, they sought asylum after death threats were made against them in Ukraine, that they also have a judicial remedy and that the government of Ukraine really cannot have it both ways under a presidential decree actually addressed to this case and one similar case. [00:08:32] Speaker 01: It issued a presidential decree in 2016 saying that Lux Express and the Ivanenko individual plaintiffs would be considered as foreign entities for purposes of this litigation, which they had pending in the US District Court. [00:08:57] Speaker 01: And Ukraine argues, well, we call them [00:09:01] Speaker 01: foreign entities or foreign persons for purposes of this litigation so that the Ministry of Justice could defend the case. [00:09:10] Speaker 01: But for all other purposes, they are Ukrainian plaintiffs. [00:09:14] Speaker 01: We would argue that the government cannot have it both ways, that when it defined by statute or presidential decree, these originally Ukrainian plaintiffs as [00:09:31] Speaker 01: foreign entities if they want the object could have been otherwise but in a sense they were declaring these to be persona non grata no longer could have the benefits of Ukrainian citizenship and we believe that they should be treated as foreign entities not domestic Ukraine entities for purposes of this litigation based upon the actions of [00:10:00] Speaker 01: of Ukraine. [00:10:03] Speaker 03: I'd also like to let you know, the Ukraine has argued both the domestic taking exceptions and the failure of the Alamo group to meet the commercial activities exception. [00:10:21] Speaker 03: And of course, the Supreme Court more recently has cut back this court in terms of exceptions. [00:10:28] Speaker 03: Any comment you want to make on that? [00:10:33] Speaker 01: Sure. [00:10:34] Speaker 01: We didn't brief the most recent decisions, however, in the Phillips case and in the Simon case, which is back either before the district court in your district. [00:10:48] Speaker 03: Well, let's put it this way. [00:10:50] Speaker 03: The Phillips court is going to look at the law as it is now. [00:10:54] Speaker 01: Sure. [00:10:55] Speaker 01: The law as it is now, [00:11:00] Speaker 01: The primary takeaway I see to the Phillips case, we never argued that this was a human rights case. [00:11:07] Speaker 01: We argued that it was strictly a property case. [00:11:10] Speaker 01: So certainly we're alive and well, I think under Phillips and Simon in that respect, the taking of the property should only be viewed under the lens of the property law. [00:11:25] Speaker 01: And in this particular case, [00:11:28] Speaker 01: If you look at both the exceptions under the commercial taking, the commercial activity and the taking section, we believe that we fall within both those exceptions as I indicated under the commercial activity. [00:11:46] Speaker 01: And I think this is an important point which the district court kind of missed and the Ukraine has really picked up on that improperly. [00:11:58] Speaker 01: While the land itself may have been owned by the Kiev City Council, it's clear from the record that it was the Southwestern Railway, clearly an instrumentality, an agency of the Ukraine government that had been tasked to [00:12:24] Speaker 01: operate this particular land and indeed to negotiate with the defendants over compensation. [00:12:32] Speaker 01: They actually arrived at an agreement for compensation, but those monies were promptly stolen from the Ukraine treasury by individual defendants and was no longer available. [00:12:46] Speaker 01: So it was clearly the commercial activity [00:12:50] Speaker 01: both before and after the taking, it was an automobile dealership before, after, it wasn't used for a public purpose, the building of a bridge, the off-ramps, it was the build, the bridge never happened, at least with regard to this property. [00:13:07] Speaker 01: What it was used for was a sports for say, for-profit commercial sports. [00:13:12] Speaker 03: All right, well, why don't we hear from Council for Police? [00:13:19] Speaker 03: I think it's a nice segue from those recent Supreme Court cases. [00:13:24] Speaker 03: And then we'll give you some time on rebuttal. [00:13:27] Speaker 01: Thank you. [00:13:29] Speaker 02: Good morning. [00:13:29] Speaker 02: May it please the court, I'm Robert Shaw of Holland and Knight on behalf of Ukraine. [00:13:34] Speaker 02: The District Court correctly held that this case does not trigger any of the FSIA's narrow exceptions to foreign sovereign immunity. [00:13:42] Speaker 02: I'll begin with the expropriation exception because that was the initial focus of the Pellan's oral argument [00:13:47] Speaker 02: It only applies where property is both taken in violation of international law and that property has a certain nexus to the United States. [00:13:59] Speaker 02: The appellants who allegedly suffered a taking of their leasehold and the destruction of their property, real property, were lux express to, and Mr. and Mrs. Ivanenko, they are Ukrainian. [00:14:10] Speaker 02: And as the Supreme court explained only last month, the domestic takings rule holds that expropriation [00:14:16] Speaker 02: from the country's own nationals do not violate international law and therefore do not trigger FSA jurisdiction. [00:14:25] Speaker 02: Helen's principle argument on appeal is that this court's decision in Simon versus Republic of Hungary and other cases once recognized an exception to the domestic takings rule for takings attendant to genocide. [00:14:40] Speaker 02: And Helen's made the argument that this genocide exception [00:14:44] Speaker 02: to be expanded to encompass discriminatory takings and argued that this was somehow a discriminatory taking. [00:14:50] Speaker 02: As Judge Rogers alluded to during Appellant's argument, that entire basis was foreclosed by the Federal Republic of Germany to Phillips case, where the Supreme Court held that there is no exception to the domestic takings rule for even genocidal takings. [00:15:10] Speaker 02: So there cannot possibly be one for merely discriminatory takings. [00:15:14] Speaker 02: Now, the second argument is that Alamo Group, an American company that allegedly did business with Lux Express 2, could be treated as though it were the parent company of Lux Express. [00:15:26] Speaker 02: Now, this court has recognized that an American parent company can suffer taking in violation of international law if all of the assets of its wholly owned, foreign incorporated subsidiary are wrongfully seized by a foreign government. [00:15:44] Speaker 02: With this argument isn't the law, it's the fact that Alamo Group is not alleged to have had any ownership interest in Lux Express 2 at the time of the alleged expropriation. [00:15:56] Speaker 02: Lux Express 2 was wholly owned by Mr. and Mrs. Ivanenko, two Ukrainians. [00:16:01] Speaker 02: So the domestics taking rule eliminates the application of the expropriation exception to almost this entire case. [00:16:11] Speaker 02: Appellants have resorted to a last-ditch argument in their reply brief, and they contend that office equipment, automobiles, and auto parts that the American appellant, Alamo Group, stored on the property and jointly shared with Luxe Express was wrongfully destroyed and or taken by the defendant. [00:16:31] Speaker 02: Now, this was not the focus of this case up until very recently, but because there's no place left to go for jurisdiction, a case that started out about [00:16:40] Speaker 02: Real estate in Kiev is now about unspecified automobiles. [00:16:44] Speaker 02: Now, there are a number of problems with this argument as well. [00:16:47] Speaker 02: To begin with, there's actually no allegation or evidence that Alamo Group even owned the allegedly chaired computers and automobiles. [00:16:56] Speaker 02: So, opponents have failed to actually allege a taking from an American company. [00:17:00] Speaker 02: But in any event, none of the opponents, including Alamo Group, can possibly satisfy the second prong of the expropriation exception. [00:17:08] Speaker 02: the need for a nexus between the expropriated property and the United States. [00:17:14] Speaker 02: In order to trigger the expropriation exception, the property has to be either here in this country or owned and operated by an agency or instrumentality of the foreign state that is engaged in a commercial activity in this country. [00:17:30] Speaker 02: Appellants had not remotely shown that a state-owned company owns or operates the land issue, much less that a state-owned company is engaged in a commercial activity in this country. [00:17:41] Speaker 02: There is a suggestion that computers, auto parts, and automobiles may have been destroyed by some part of the Ukrainian government. [00:17:49] Speaker 02: Well, if that's the case, they can't be owned or operated by some state-owned company because they no longer exist. [00:17:56] Speaker 02: In his opening presentation, Appellant argued [00:17:59] Speaker 02: that this parcel was originally taken to form a railroad bridge, but that the bridge never got built, and now it's been turned into a sports complex. [00:18:09] Speaker 02: Well, the complaint says the same thing, more or less, but what it doesn't say is that the Southwestern Railway, this alleged agency or instrumentality of Ukraine, currently possesses anything from any of the appellants. [00:18:22] Speaker 02: It says practically just the opposite, that the Southwestern Railway was there as a pretext to seize this [00:18:28] Speaker 02: parcel and turn it into a sports complex and really has nothing to do with the events. [00:18:34] Speaker 02: As the district court correctly found, there's also no concrete allegations that the Southwestern Railway qualifies as an agency instrumentality of the government of Ukraine. [00:18:47] Speaker 02: It is not alleged to be wholly owned by the government to serve a principally commercial purpose. [00:18:53] Speaker 02: So we don't have allegations supporting its status as a [00:18:58] Speaker 02: agency or instrumentality, we don't have allegations supporting the suggestion that it owns or operates any allegedly taken automobiles or anything else. [00:19:07] Speaker 02: But most importantly, there were no allegations anywhere in the complaint that the Southwestern Railway is engaged in commercial activity in the United States, which of course is the touchstone of the second prong of the expropriation exception. [00:19:21] Speaker 02: The first time we heard about the Southwestern Railway supposedly [00:19:26] Speaker 02: acquiring locomotive engines from General Electric was in appellant's opening brief in this case. [00:19:34] Speaker 02: And it was accompanied by a request, a far too late request, to amend the complaint to assert these new allegations. [00:19:42] Speaker 02: Ukraine respectfully suggests that it's a little late if you're opening an appellate brief to be asking for leave to file an amended complaint, especially where the appellate didn't request leave to file an amended complaint below. [00:19:56] Speaker 02: Appellants also argue the application of the commercial activity exception, which also doesn't apply. [00:20:03] Speaker 02: Indeed, Judge Rogers squarely addressed the issue in wrong versus the awning provincial government. [00:20:12] Speaker 02: In that case, this court held that an expropriation is a quintessentially governmental act and non-commercial in nature. [00:20:20] Speaker 02: And Judge Henderson, in a concurrence in that case, explained [00:20:26] Speaker 02: that a mere financial loss by a resident of the United States, in this case Alamo Group, does not constitute a direct effect in the United States. [00:20:35] Speaker 02: So we have here an alleged expropriation. [00:20:38] Speaker 02: That's a non-commercial act by law. [00:20:42] Speaker 02: And then we have a mere financial loss to an American party, which doesn't qualify as a matter of law as a direct effect in the United States. [00:20:51] Speaker 02: Plaintiffs also, repellents also, sort of broadly argue the application of the bilateral investment treaty between the United States and Ukraine. [00:21:00] Speaker 02: And say that unless this case, unless the court is found to have jurisdiction over this case, then the treaty is neutered. [00:21:09] Speaker 02: Just quickly explain that a bilateral investment treaty gives foreign direct investors a right to pursue their claims in arbitration. [00:21:18] Speaker 02: And that is the point of that treaty. [00:21:22] Speaker 02: It does give aggrieved investors the right to also bring court cases in the foreign state. [00:21:30] Speaker 02: So if you're an investor from the United States and Ukraine, you can bring a claim in Ukraine, but you can't bring a claim in the United States or the treaty. [00:21:38] Speaker 02: Finally, there was some discussion in Helen's opening argument that [00:21:45] Speaker 02: It was a waiver by virtue of a presidential decree. [00:21:50] Speaker 02: The reality is that at the time this lawsuit was filed, Ukraine's domestic law didn't contemplate claims being filed against the state in foreign courts by Ukrainians. [00:22:02] Speaker 02: And so there was no part of the Ukrainian government that was authorized to hire counsel to mount a defense to that sort of unusual case. [00:22:11] Speaker 02: And so there had to be a presidential decree which made the technical amendment to the statute that recategorized such plaintiffs as foreign for purposes of Ukrainian law in order to authorize the Ministry of Justice to defend this case, and another case that was filed at the same time. [00:22:29] Speaker 02: Finally, the appellants say that the district court erred by refusing to grant jurisdictional discovery. [00:22:38] Speaker 02: The jurisdictional discovery that was requested, Your Honors, was just completely blunderbust in nature. [00:22:43] Speaker 02: He asked for leave to propound discovery requests, probing all of the economic ties between the United States and Ukraine, obviously hunting for any possible jurisdictional hook. [00:22:57] Speaker 02: And it was directly denied. [00:22:58] Speaker 02: The court did not abuse its discretion in denying that request for leave. [00:23:06] Speaker 02: Thank you very much, Your Honor. [00:23:07] Speaker 03: Thank you. [00:23:09] Speaker 03: Council for appellants, give you a couple of minutes. [00:23:17] Speaker 01: Yes, thank you very much. [00:23:19] Speaker 01: I tried to listen very closely and, but council, I don't think really rebutted the argument that the Alamo group, US company, which is not subject to the domestic takings exception [00:23:38] Speaker 01: suffered not a derivative loss, but a direct loss as alleged throughout this litigation. [00:23:48] Speaker 01: In addition to the taking of the leases, which was the Luke's expressed loss primarily, Alamo group as council, I think concedes or alleges that [00:24:07] Speaker 01: with a foundation in the record that it did have specific equipment and automobiles and auto parts on the premises that were not destroyed, but were taken by the instrumentality, which was- Council, can you give me the JA site for that allegation? [00:24:36] Speaker 01: I was looking for that, and I believe it's in the reply brief. [00:24:40] Speaker 00: No, no, no. [00:24:42] Speaker 00: You said it was an allegation. [00:24:43] Speaker 00: Isn't it an injury complaint? [00:24:48] Speaker 00: Where in your complaint is that it alleged that automobiles and auto parts were taken? [00:25:09] Speaker 01: Yes, that would be. [00:25:25] Speaker 01: The citation I see is, the one I immediately see is the affidavit of Ivanenko, which is A361, where it says that [00:25:38] Speaker 01: Alamo group maintain automobiles, auto parts and accessories, which were stolen by the defendants. [00:25:47] Speaker 01: I don't immediately see the reference to the complaint, but this is from the affidavit that was submitted in support of the opposition in the court below. [00:26:06] Speaker 01: We then offered a second amended complaint. [00:26:10] Speaker 01: And so the references that I can immediately see are in the affidavits of Ivanenko at a 361 and Mark Resnick at a 354. [00:26:31] Speaker 01: And I believe they cite to the complaint, but I don't [00:26:34] Speaker 01: immediately have the U.S. [00:26:37] Speaker 01: complaint site to it. [00:26:38] Speaker 01: If I could supplement the record, I will go through the complaint and get that. [00:26:45] Speaker 01: Shall I proceed? [00:26:48] Speaker 01: The taking of the Alamo Group's property clearly outside the domestic taking falls within both the commercial activity exception [00:27:03] Speaker 01: and the takings exception under the commercial activity, it had a direct effect on the United States. [00:27:14] Speaker 01: The transactions were in dollars between the parties. [00:27:18] Speaker 01: It impacted the Federal Reserve System and it devastated Alamo Group's business in the US. [00:27:26] Speaker 01: Now the Southwestern Railway, which council alluded to and I did as well, after the district court decision had been rendered and we were in an appellate context, it came to our attention and we put it into our brief, the public citation, [00:27:55] Speaker 01: to a commercial railway purchase by Southwestern Railway, which millions if not billions of dollars of locomotive equipment from GE here in the US. [00:28:11] Speaker 01: And under the commercial activity definition under 1303D, commercial activity can be a continuing course of [00:28:24] Speaker 01: of conduct or it can be a single act. [00:28:29] Speaker 01: And we would argue that we have established through the public record here that purchase by Southwestern Railway. [00:28:42] Speaker 01: So the focus here is not so much on the leases itself, which would be part of the claim of Luke's Express, but on the, [00:28:54] Speaker 01: taking of the personal property of Alamo group, which itself suffered damages, not derivative damages. [00:29:07] Speaker 01: We believe that the court, there is no claim here of genocide, as counsel says, and clearly we're within the scope of Phillips with regard to a property damage exception. [00:29:24] Speaker 01: And Phillips was remanded for further consideration as to the nationality, which we believe is an open issue here. [00:29:33] Speaker 01: And we would respectfully request that the matter be remanded for further proceedings so that in fact, council, which is that appellant, which has set forth a good faith basis now of a commercial activity by Southwestern Railway, which first [00:29:53] Speaker 01: became publicly aware of that while we're on appeal here that the matter should be remanded. [00:30:01] Speaker 01: We did not sit on our rights. [00:30:04] Speaker 01: We raised it here. [00:30:06] Speaker 01: All right, counsel. [00:30:09] Speaker 03: Yes, I think we get your point. [00:30:14] Speaker 03: Unless my colleagues have any questions, I think we'll take the case under advisement.