[00:00:00] Speaker 02: Case number 21-3056, United States of America versus Antonio Moreno-Membachi, appellant. [00:00:08] Speaker 02: Ms. [00:00:08] Speaker 02: Hernandez for the appellant. [00:00:09] Speaker 02: Mr. Nguyen for the appellee. [00:00:12] Speaker 02: Good morning, Ms. [00:00:13] Speaker 02: Hernandez. [00:00:14] Speaker 00: Good morning, Your Honors. [00:00:15] Speaker 00: May it please the court? [00:00:17] Speaker 00: My name is Carmen Hernandez. [00:00:18] Speaker 00: I represent Antonio Moreno-Membachi. [00:00:21] Speaker 00: This case is back before Your Honors on remand. [00:00:26] Speaker 00: The court previously found [00:00:28] Speaker 00: This court previously found that the government had breached its plea agreement and remanded the case for a hearing untainted and uninfluenced by its prior findings based on the breach of the plea agreement. [00:00:41] Speaker 00: And I think the key issue in this case is whether the district court followed that. [00:00:46] Speaker 00: From Mr. Moreno and Batch's point of view, it's clear that the court did not. [00:00:52] Speaker 00: The court was resistant, critical of this court's opinion [00:00:56] Speaker 00: And the government encouraged that each time the district court found asked whether it was supposed to do a new hearing, the government said, no, you can, you know, you have already made a finding, you don't need to review it. [00:01:08] Speaker 00: And I think not only were the court repeatedly, did the district court repeatedly criticize this court's opinion and resist what this court had ordered, [00:01:18] Speaker 00: But what it did, a couple of things it did make clear that that's what it was doing. [00:01:24] Speaker 00: It was sticking with its previous finding. [00:01:27] Speaker 00: Number one, I represented defendant below. [00:01:30] Speaker 00: And when I tried to submit an exhibit list to this new sentencing hearing, the court rejected that. [00:01:37] Speaker 00: Said she was not having any of it. [00:01:39] Speaker 00: She wasn't going to have a new evidentiary hearing. [00:01:43] Speaker 00: Another issue that was clear, really the only [00:01:48] Speaker 00: cooperator that the government had for the fact finding. [00:01:52] Speaker 00: And by the way, it was not, it was just based on a document, there was no actual evidence. [00:02:00] Speaker 00: person that the government relied on was a person that after he got two reductions for cooperation, rule 35 and originally a rule 5K1, he was rearrested in 2018. [00:02:16] Speaker 00: So by the time the previous sentencing hearing was held, he had been rearrested, reconvicted and resentenced. [00:02:22] Speaker 00: That information was not put before the district court. [00:02:25] Speaker 00: And I only learned of it at the last minute before the [00:02:28] Speaker 00: this hearing that we had this third sentencing hearing. [00:02:32] Speaker 02: But your contention isn't that the hearing should have been continued so that you could make full use of that knowledge, right? [00:02:41] Speaker 00: No, Your Honor. [00:02:44] Speaker 02: And the statement that inculpated your client was made before the rearrest and reconviction, right? [00:02:54] Speaker 00: Correct. [00:02:54] Speaker 00: But I [00:02:56] Speaker 00: I would say to the court that in my many years of practice, I can't imagine a district court based on [00:03:03] Speaker 00: just a document, because she'd never met this cooperator. [00:03:06] Speaker 00: So it was just a statement that the person had made four years after he started cooperating. [00:03:11] Speaker 00: And all of a sudden, by the time this statement is presented to the court, the person has already been re-arrested, reconvicted, and again, apparently cooperating with the government. [00:03:22] Speaker 00: And nothing is brought to the court's attention. [00:03:24] Speaker 00: I think most district court judges would disregard or at least look at scans at anything that person said. [00:03:31] Speaker 00: particularly given all the other problems with that person's testimony. [00:03:35] Speaker 00: There were five or six cooperators. [00:03:37] Speaker 00: He was the only one who claimed to have seen a firearm. [00:03:40] Speaker 00: He saw it for the first time, or he said that for the first time, four years after he had begun cooperating, eight proper sessions after he had started. [00:03:50] Speaker 00: And there was no tangible evidence to corroborate. [00:03:53] Speaker 00: When the defendant was arrested, he didn't have a firearm. [00:03:56] Speaker 00: He had never been seen with a firearm by anybody else. [00:04:00] Speaker 00: There was no 100,000 telephone intercepted phone calls, no reference to the defendant having a firearm. [00:04:07] Speaker 00: So all the problems with that statement. [00:04:09] Speaker 00: And then this person gets re-arrested and the district court says, oh, no big deal. [00:04:14] Speaker 00: I always knew he was a drug trafficker. [00:04:16] Speaker 00: I didn't expect any better of it. [00:04:18] Speaker 00: I think that's completely inconsistent with how courts view [00:04:22] Speaker 00: on corroborated testimony, particularly because it's one thing when someone's always been a drug trafficker or has committed a bunch of crimes, now changes his stripes, admits responsibility, starts cooperating with the government. [00:04:36] Speaker 00: The theory is you've turned your life around, you're now going to do the right thing. [00:04:41] Speaker 00: This guy [00:04:42] Speaker 00: not only he gained the system is what I would say to the court. [00:04:45] Speaker 00: And the idea that the district court just disregarded that I think goes more than anything to the fact that the judge was wedded to its earlier finding and wasn't gonna change no matter what. [00:04:58] Speaker 00: So I think it's pretty clear from everything the district court said and everything she did that she just wasn't having [00:05:08] Speaker 00: I wasn't having any hearing. [00:05:10] Speaker 00: And just for the court to understand the narrow issue, there were two statements that in any way, shape or form played on the finding that the court had to make. [00:05:22] Speaker 00: There were two cooperators who alleged, one cooperator alleged to have seen a firearm. [00:05:31] Speaker 00: The other cooperator alleged to have seen a bulge that appeared to him maybe was a firearm. [00:05:36] Speaker 00: That's it. [00:05:37] Speaker 00: It didn't need extensive, [00:05:38] Speaker 00: Peering, it just had to do. [00:05:40] Speaker 00: Let me compare these two documents. [00:05:43] Speaker 00: They never appeared. [00:05:44] Speaker 00: These two persons never appeared before. [00:05:47] Speaker 02: What was the government's burden, so to speak, with respect to proving this fact? [00:05:58] Speaker 00: You know, that's an interesting question. [00:06:01] Speaker 00: It's from the safety valve and as the court knows, there are five factors to be considered and I don't think this court has ever determined who has the burden on each of the factors. [00:06:12] Speaker 00: The district court said it was the government's burden, it would be a burden as any other burden of sentencing because it was an aggravating. [00:06:21] Speaker 00: So the safety valve itself is a mitigating factor which would ordinarily be up to the [00:06:26] Speaker 00: to the defense to prove, but each of the five factors that must be found in order to make somebody eligible under the safety valve, some are mitigators, some are aggravators. [00:06:36] Speaker 00: And I believe the district court found that it was the government's burden. [00:06:41] Speaker 02: And it's a, you know, it's the- Is it a burden by preponderance? [00:06:46] Speaker 02: Is it by some evidence? [00:06:47] Speaker 02: Is it by clear and convincing? [00:06:49] Speaker 02: What is the burden under our president? [00:06:52] Speaker 00: Well, it's a, [00:06:53] Speaker 00: At sentencing, it's a preponderance. [00:06:55] Speaker 00: Obviously, defense always argues for a higher burden, but no court has found that it's anything other than preponderance at sentencing. [00:07:06] Speaker 00: So that was it. [00:07:08] Speaker 02: So is it your argument that the finding was clear error, or is it your finding that just that the fact that the district court [00:07:21] Speaker 02: would credit this and not have a more fulsome hearing just shows an abuse of discretion by the district court? [00:07:33] Speaker 00: Both. [00:07:34] Speaker 00: I mean, number one, I think the main issue on appeals with the district court followed this court's mandate. [00:07:39] Speaker 00: And then the second issue, even if it followed the court's mandate, the decision was clearly erroneous and an abuse of discretion and not holding a full hearing. [00:07:48] Speaker 00: But the primary issue is that I think the record is fairly clear that the court did not follow this court's mandates. [00:07:55] Speaker 00: And all these factual issues that I'm raising for the court are just evidence of the fact that the district court did not. [00:08:02] Speaker 00: I've appeared before, again, as I say, very rare that a district court would give so much value to a statement by someone the court had never met because he never appeared. [00:08:14] Speaker 00: So there was no demeanor evidence for the court to credit. [00:08:17] Speaker 00: It was just a blank statement. [00:08:19] Speaker 00: I think I'm running into my rebuttal time. [00:08:26] Speaker 02: We'll ask Judge Walker. [00:08:28] Speaker 01: Judge Randolph, do you have questions? [00:08:31] Speaker 01: No. [00:08:31] Speaker 01: I was just wondering, did you file a reply brief, Ms. [00:08:34] Speaker 01: Hernandez? [00:08:35] Speaker 00: I'm sorry. [00:08:35] Speaker 00: No, Your Honor. [00:08:37] Speaker 00: OK. [00:08:37] Speaker 00: It seemed like a pretty straightforward issue. [00:08:40] Speaker 00: I think that the issue is whether the district court [00:08:44] Speaker 00: followed the court's mandate or not. [00:08:46] Speaker 00: I think that's a pretty straight issue. [00:08:47] Speaker 00: And I will say one thing, I did not ask originally for a remand to a different judge because I didn't think it was a unique case. [00:08:55] Speaker 00: I thought the district court give the benefit of the doubt that district court would follow the court's mandate. [00:09:03] Speaker 00: Only after in the hearing, it became clear to me that the court was not, that I requested that the court remand to a different case, recuse herself. [00:09:12] Speaker 00: Thank you, Ron. [00:09:14] Speaker 02: All right, thank you. [00:09:14] Speaker 02: We'll hear from the government. [00:09:18] Speaker 04: Good morning, Your Honor, and may it please the court. [00:09:20] Speaker 04: Connor Wink, United States. [00:09:22] Speaker 04: In this case, as Ms. [00:09:23] Speaker 04: Hernandez just articulated, there's really two questions at the heart of the appeal. [00:09:28] Speaker 04: Did the district court comply with this court's mandate back in its prior opinion? [00:09:34] Speaker 04: And did the district court have sufficient evidence to make a finding that Moreno Mbashi possessed a firearm in connection with his drug trafficking offense in this case? [00:09:43] Speaker 04: The answer to both questions are yes. [00:09:46] Speaker 04: Starting first with the contours of this court's mandate from its prior opinion. [00:09:51] Speaker 04: First, this court remanded to the district court to segregate its supervisory and managerial status finding from its firearm. [00:10:02] Speaker 04: And it directed the district court to do that through argument and evidence that was untainted by the government's breach of the plea agreement. [00:10:09] Speaker 04: But this court didn't tell the government, the district court to go about doing that via a new evidentiary hearing. [00:10:15] Speaker 04: Instead, it commanded only that the district court engage in a new sentencing proceeding. [00:10:20] Speaker 04: And that's what the district court did here. [00:10:23] Speaker 04: It received supplemental briefing from both sides, which contained all of the relevant firearm finding evidence that the district court needed. [00:10:31] Speaker 04: In addition, it had access to the portions of the evidentiary hearing record [00:10:36] Speaker 04: that were untainted by the managerial status evidence and argument from the last appeal. [00:10:42] Speaker 04: Then with that information, it brought the parties in for sentencing. [00:10:46] Speaker 04: It took oral argument from both the government and from Mr. Mendocchi. [00:10:51] Speaker 04: And with that evidence, it reached an oral ruling. [00:10:55] Speaker 04: All of this was in the contours of this court's last opinion. [00:10:59] Speaker 04: It gave Mr. Mendocchi exactly what this court ordered, a new sentencing proceeding [00:11:04] Speaker 04: untainted and uninfluenced by the government's prior breach of the plea agreement. [00:11:09] Speaker 04: Now, that evidence that was before the district court was sufficient to make the firearm binding here. [00:11:16] Speaker 04: All the district court had to find was that Moreno-Membachi possessed a firearm and that it was possessed in connection with the drug trafficking defense in this case. [00:11:25] Speaker 04: The evidence was certainly sufficient to support that conclusion on both. [00:11:30] Speaker 04: And the district court didn't clearly err in reaching the conclusion that it did. [00:11:35] Speaker 04: With regards to possession, specifically two witnesses testified that they had seen Marina Mendocchi carrying a firearm at different points in time throughout the drug trafficking conspiracy in this case. [00:11:47] Speaker 04: The first at a planning meeting for the misfit, which was the drug trafficking both used here to smuggle- They said they testified. [00:11:55] Speaker 04: Excuse me, they didn't testify, Your Honor. [00:11:58] Speaker 04: There was a special agent who acted as a summary witness in this case. [00:12:02] Speaker 04: And they, during interviews with that spit, special agent conveyed this information to him. [00:12:07] Speaker 04: Then he testified before the district court. [00:12:11] Speaker 04: Now, as I was mentioning, the first of these witnesses told law enforcement that Mr. Moreno-Mimbachi had a firearm at a planning meeting. [00:12:20] Speaker 04: And at that planning meeting, Mr. Mimbachi removed the firearm in plain view [00:12:25] Speaker 04: ejected the magazine, inspected the magazine, and then reloaded it, brandishing the firearm in front of his co-conspirators, signaling that he was capable of fulfilling his duties in this drug trafficking conspiracy, specifically moving, storing, and protecting the cocaine as he transported it to Colombia. [00:12:44] Speaker 04: The second vignette came from another of Marino Mbatchi's co-conspirators, who said that at the Mispi Blompsa, the place where drugs were being loaded and unloaded [00:12:54] Speaker 04: He saw Moreno Manbachi with what appeared to be the silhouette or outline of a handgun concealed within his waistband. [00:13:02] Speaker 04: Once again, that was evidence that Moreno Manbachi possessed a firearm during his drug trafficking duties in this case. [00:13:10] Speaker 04: And either of those incidents also shows that the possession of the firearm was in connection with the drug trafficking offense. [00:13:17] Speaker 04: Whether he brandished the firearm in front of his co-conspirators to instill confidence in them that he would carry out his duties [00:13:23] Speaker 04: or whether he carried the firearm around the illegal narcotics in this case to protect the contraband. [00:13:30] Speaker 04: And both of those would qualify as purposes capable of facilitating the drug trafficking. [00:13:38] Speaker 04: Given all this, the district court didn't clearly air. [00:13:41] Speaker 04: There was adequate and reliable evidence for it to reach the conclusion it did and to deny Moreno-Membachi's request for safety balcony. [00:13:49] Speaker 02: What about the the rearrest and reconviction? [00:13:54] Speaker 04: Yes, your honor. [00:13:55] Speaker 04: So a couple of points on that. [00:13:58] Speaker 04: First, the district court actually considered that evidence in the most recent sentencing hearing. [00:14:03] Speaker 04: And so in two ways, there's a Brady component to this, and then just a re-evaluation of the evidence that the district court conducted in its world ruling. [00:14:12] Speaker 04: With regards to the Brady claim that Marina Membashi has asserted, the government doesn't see a Brady violation here. [00:14:19] Speaker 04: First, the evidence was disclosed to Marina Membashi in advance of the sentencing hearing [00:14:24] Speaker 04: forms the basis for the sentence currently on appeal. [00:14:27] Speaker 04: So he had access to this evidence. [00:14:29] Speaker 04: He was able to argue about this evidence to the district court. [00:14:32] Speaker 04: That's all that Brady required. [00:14:34] Speaker 04: In addition, with regards to Brady, the government doesn't see any sort of prejudice arising from any non or league disclosure in this case, because it told the district. [00:14:45] Speaker 02: Shouldn't it have been disclosed before the prior sentencing? [00:14:50] Speaker 04: Absolutely, Your Honor. [00:14:51] Speaker 04: And the government takes Brady obligations seriously and it should have disclosed that information sooner. [00:14:56] Speaker 04: And that was just a mistake on our part. [00:14:59] Speaker 04: The fact that we didn't disclose it before that prior sentencing might have caused a Brady nondisclosure problem. [00:15:05] Speaker 04: It had that sentence still been in effect. [00:15:08] Speaker 04: But after this court's opinion of vacating Mr. Menbashi's sentence and demanding a new sentencing proceeding in its entirety, [00:15:15] Speaker 04: The subsequent disclosure of that evidence prevented any gravy violation from infecting the sentence that's currently on appeal here. [00:15:26] Speaker 04: Now, because Mr. Mbachi had access to that evidence at sentencing, he actually argued to the district court that it should use this evidence to revisit the credibility finding that it had previously made and that it was making again. [00:15:38] Speaker 04: But the district court declined to do so. [00:15:40] Speaker 04: And it was well within its discretion to take that view. [00:15:42] Speaker 04: It looked at the evidence and said, [00:15:45] Speaker 04: I know that Mr. Preidris is a drug trafficker. [00:15:47] Speaker 04: That's not new information. [00:15:49] Speaker 04: I nevertheless find it plausible that what he's saying about the firearm being used in connection with this drug trafficking offense is plausible. [00:15:57] Speaker 04: And that's all that this court's case law in the United States be laid out requires. [00:16:02] Speaker 04: Now, one final point on all this, and then I'm happy to take any questions that the panel might still have. [00:16:10] Speaker 04: The district court went about this in a neutral and detached way. [00:16:14] Speaker 04: This court remanded the case to the district court because it believed that the chief judge was capable of handling Mr. Menbashi's resentencing in a neutral and touched manner. [00:16:25] Speaker 04: And despite what Mr. Menbashi has just argued here, he did in fact request for this court to reassign the case to a different district judge, but this court declined to do so. [00:16:34] Speaker 04: And you can see that Mr. Menbashi made that request in his previous reply in the previous appeal on page two. [00:16:42] Speaker 04: But this court thought that the district judge could [00:16:44] Speaker 04: adhere to the commands it was giving in its prior opinion. [00:16:47] Speaker 04: And that's exactly what the district court did here. [00:16:51] Speaker 04: This court should affirm the judgment and sentence of the district court. [00:16:54] Speaker 04: And if there are no further questions, the government's happy to rest on the briefs. [00:17:00] Speaker 02: Judge Walker, Judge Randolph, do you have any further questions? [00:17:03] Speaker 02: No. [00:17:06] Speaker 02: All right. [00:17:06] Speaker 02: Thank you, Mr. Nguyen, Ms. [00:17:08] Speaker 02: Fernandez. [00:17:10] Speaker 00: Rhonda, the government's factual recitation is just not accurate. [00:17:14] Speaker 00: And there's a problem with the record, which the government has chosen to ignore. [00:17:19] Speaker 00: The second cooperator never said that he saw a firearm at a planning meeting or anywhere else. [00:17:26] Speaker 00: He said he had seen a bolt in the shirt, which he determined probably was a firearm. [00:17:34] Speaker 00: He never saw it at a planning meeting. [00:17:36] Speaker 00: The entirety of his statement, which is one paragraph long, is in the record at page 81, [00:17:43] Speaker 00: of the appendix. [00:17:47] Speaker 03: Was that individual present at the meeting that the other fellow talked about with the defendant here brandishing the firearm and [00:18:13] Speaker 00: Presumably he was, Your Honor. [00:18:15] Speaker 00: He was at all the planning meetings. [00:18:17] Speaker 00: Those two were the two co-op, quote unquote, cooperators, were two members of the boat crew, and presumably they were always at the planning meetings, yet their stories did not. [00:18:28] Speaker 03: Presumably, but we don't know, right? [00:18:31] Speaker 00: Right. [00:18:31] Speaker 00: The statements that are at issue here is one paragraph from [00:18:36] Speaker 00: from one debrief four years later, and one paragraph from the other's debrief four years later. [00:18:42] Speaker 00: So that's all the statements that are an issue here. [00:18:44] Speaker 00: There was no testimony, and this wasn't an extensive rehearing that was required. [00:18:49] Speaker 00: It was just let's review the two proffers, which were, you know, reports by [00:18:55] Speaker 00: by an FBI agent or an agent. [00:18:57] Speaker 00: And the person who testified at the earlier hearing, the agent who testified at the earlier hearing, had not interviewed either of these witnesses. [00:19:04] Speaker 00: So he was testifying completely from these written proffers. [00:19:09] Speaker 00: And the errors in the earlier hearing, which this court never resolved, which were brought to this court's attention, never resolved at the earlier appeal, is because this court remanded for what [00:19:22] Speaker 00: deemed a new sentencing proceeding. [00:19:25] Speaker 00: And that is not what happened in this case. [00:19:27] Speaker 00: This was not a new sentencing proceeding. [00:19:29] Speaker 00: And the facts clearly do not support it, Your Honor. [00:19:32] Speaker 00: My time is over. [00:19:35] Speaker 00: It just, look, I'm sorry, Your Honor. [00:19:40] Speaker 00: I just think it's, to sentence a person based on the uncorroborated testimony of a person who's just continuing to be a criminal with no corroboration, [00:19:52] Speaker 00: No tangible evidence, nothing. [00:19:54] Speaker 00: There just has to be a limit to the extent to which the sentencing guidelines allow that kind of sentencing in the court. [00:20:01] Speaker 00: I know some of your honors have been district court judges and know the burden of sentencing defendants, but this goes beyond. [00:20:07] Speaker 00: This is clearly erroneous and abusive discretion. [00:20:10] Speaker 00: Thank you, Your Honor, for your indulgence in letting me go on. [00:20:14] Speaker 02: All right. [00:20:14] Speaker 02: Thank you, Ms. [00:20:15] Speaker 02: Hernandez. [00:20:16] Speaker 02: Mr. Nguyen will take the matter under advice.