[00:00:00] Speaker 00: Case number 23-5100, Lester A. Leach, appellant, versus Janet L. Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury. [00:00:09] Speaker 00: Mr. Seldin for the appellant, Mr. Simon for the appellee. [00:00:14] Speaker 02: Good morning, Mr. Seldin. [00:00:19] Speaker 03: Good morning. [00:00:22] Speaker 03: David, please, the court. [00:00:25] Speaker 03: This is really a very straightforward case that the government [00:00:29] Speaker 03: obscured very deftly. [00:00:33] Speaker 03: What I'd like to do, if I may, in beginning, I know that there are issues that the court may or may not be interested in. [00:00:41] Speaker 03: I would like to just highlight the three that I think are, and then we can go wherever the court would like us to go. [00:00:50] Speaker 03: The first is that Mr. Leach was not just placed under investigation. [00:00:55] Speaker 03: He was simultaneously relieved of duties [00:00:58] Speaker 03: involuntarily reassigned and his position was taken apart so he would never be able to go back. [00:01:05] Speaker 03: That is tangible harm under any scenario and this circuit has held that numerous times. [00:01:13] Speaker 03: The reason we put the first section of our reply brief and devoted it to Mr. Leach's record is not because he just got outstanding appraisals. [00:01:24] Speaker 03: We all know in the government that may or may not matter. [00:01:27] Speaker 03: But he did have $45,000 and more important than that, the narratives that are in there show that what the government has argued that he did, he was abusive, he was this or that. [00:01:43] Speaker 03: Those narratives say that he was commended for superb leadership, treating each division member with respect and embracing EEO diversity [00:01:54] Speaker 03: The supervisors, Bailey and O'Connor, admitted that those were accurate when they were deposed. [00:02:01] Speaker 03: This is powerful evidence of discrimination retaliation under Stowe and Cezalski. [00:02:09] Speaker 03: Nothing in those could be overridden by a phone call or two while Mr. Medina was on leave. [00:02:17] Speaker 03: If anyone came to this court or a district court or any court and said, [00:02:22] Speaker 03: It was a hostile work environment because my boss called me a couple of times when I was on leave, knowing how many, many times the boss had been sympathetic. [00:02:32] Speaker 03: It would be laughed out of court if you were lucky. [00:02:35] Speaker 03: You would be sanctioned for bringing a case like that. [00:02:38] Speaker 02: That's not the standard, though, as to whether it was actually hostile work environment in the [00:02:47] Speaker 02: The standard is, did they have reason to refer it for investigation? [00:02:55] Speaker 03: Well, I think that's part of it. [00:02:56] Speaker 03: And the referral to investigation is important. [00:03:00] Speaker 03: First of all, this is a man with a superb record who winds up being investigated by the inspector general. [00:03:08] Speaker 03: That's really the core question. [00:03:10] Speaker 03: And we know, because emails that are in the record show that Mr. Bailey was aware, he praised [00:03:18] Speaker 03: for the same years for, it was like six weeks before getting the attention of his previous case. [00:03:27] Speaker 03: He was praised for bringing Mr. Medina on board. [00:03:31] Speaker 03: He was praised for Mr. Leach promoted him from temporary to permanent. [00:03:39] Speaker 03: Bailey and O'Connor compliment for that. [00:03:42] Speaker 03: If every single person who had an employee who filed an email complaint against them wound up at the inspector general's office, no employer could survive. [00:03:56] Speaker 02: But there's a standard or guideline that was cited. [00:04:01] Speaker 02: by your friends on the other side about when referrals to its office of the Inspector General are to be made. [00:04:10] Speaker 02: And they said this fell within those guidelines. [00:04:12] Speaker 02: Are you disputing that this fell within those guidelines? [00:04:15] Speaker 03: What I'm saying is this Judge Wilkins, it's undisputed that that document, that alleged order was not disclosed and disclosures not produced during discovery. [00:04:27] Speaker 03: And as they themselves have said, not relied upon by giving [00:04:33] Speaker 03: by referring Mr. Leach. [00:04:36] Speaker 03: The case is in our brief Stanley versus Edmonds by this circuit. [00:04:41] Speaker 03: It is plainly not admissible for any substantive purpose. [00:04:47] Speaker 03: The government has had two opportunities to say that they produced this in the district court and before this court. [00:04:55] Speaker 03: It was clearly at issue. [00:04:57] Speaker 03: They have never said that. [00:04:59] Speaker 03: Their response has been nobody relied on it. [00:05:03] Speaker 03: Let me tell you the prejudice that works from that, if I may. [00:05:07] Speaker 03: That may say that. [00:05:10] Speaker 03: We didn't have the opportunity to look for, take discovery, whether it's depositions, whether it's documents, whether it's from the inspector general, on whether this is really what happens. [00:05:24] Speaker 03: And what we know is that when the time came to make that referral, Mr. O'Connor chimed in with Mr. Modal [00:05:32] Speaker 03: right after the chief counsel said, Treasury Department wants all EEO complaints that involve the top of the mint referred to it for examination, that Mr. O'Connor chimed in and said, this is potentially criminal misconduct. [00:05:51] Speaker 00: If I could take a step back, though. [00:05:53] Speaker 03: Yes. [00:05:53] Speaker 00: Surely an email complaint from a subordinate, if it alleges something extremely serious, could spark an investigation [00:06:02] Speaker 00: a suspension, et cetera. [00:06:04] Speaker 00: And I guess where we are is that there is sort of an objective basis for the employment actions that were taken, which was that we had a very serious complaint from a subordinate, Medina. [00:06:18] Speaker 00: We decided to investigate that. [00:06:19] Speaker 00: And this is what happened after that. [00:06:22] Speaker 00: And then it kind of shifts to you to say, no, actually, you saying that what motivated all this was the complaint from Medina and you taking it seriously. [00:06:31] Speaker 00: That's a pretext. [00:06:32] Speaker 00: What actually was going on here is that you were retaliating against my client for prior EEO complaints, or it was race discrimination. [00:06:44] Speaker 00: What's your best evidence that the real motivating factor for all of these employment actions was not what they said it was, which we're just investigating this very serious allegation, but in fact, it was race discrimination or retaliation? [00:07:00] Speaker 03: There's nothing very serious in that email. [00:07:03] Speaker 00: Mr. Medina had a- I think you could just not fight my hypo. [00:07:05] Speaker 00: What is your best evidence that the motivating factor is? [00:07:09] Speaker 03: I think there's a great deal, actually. [00:07:12] Speaker 03: I think one of the things and the most important thing is probably the performance appraisals, which were admitted to be true, including his treatment of Medina. [00:07:23] Speaker 00: But that's not evidence that this is retaliatory or race discrimination. [00:07:26] Speaker 03: Well, it is showing that it is untrue. [00:07:30] Speaker 03: and untrue under ACCA and REE and ACCA primarily is showing the untruth of this, the lack of believability. [00:07:38] Speaker 00: You mean the allegations from Medina were untrue? [00:07:40] Speaker 03: No, I'll even accept them as true, which they were not. [00:07:44] Speaker 03: But what I'm saying is that- What's untrue? [00:07:47] Speaker 03: That management took this serious. [00:07:50] Speaker 03: We have a whole section of the brief on why Medina didn't believe any of this and even emails showing that Bailey shouldn't have either. [00:07:58] Speaker 03: But even assuming they were, [00:08:00] Speaker 03: You are placing the district court has to place reliance on the interpretation of how serious they were by Bailey and O'Connor. [00:08:10] Speaker 00: So that's your strongest piece of evidence that the actual motive was retaliatory or race discrimination, that it's untrue that management took this seriously? [00:08:19] Speaker 03: There's quite a bit. [00:08:21] Speaker 03: There's the meeting between the chief counsel. [00:08:23] Speaker 03: There was nothing decided to begin with before the meeting with the chief counsel when she said, [00:08:29] Speaker 03: These should go to the Treasury Department. [00:08:31] Speaker 03: There is no evidence that there was an administrative investigation before then, and the government has changed its tune as it went along. [00:08:40] Speaker 03: It first said they had commissioned an administrative investigation before the case. [00:08:45] Speaker 00: It seems like you're trying to prove this by negative implication, because there's no affirmative action of race discrimination or retaliation, and you're trying to infer it from [00:08:54] Speaker 00: the fact that you don't think it's true that they took it seriously? [00:08:58] Speaker 03: I'm just trying to understand your theory. [00:09:00] Speaker 03: Yes, I mean, there's no one, no, there's just many people who are untruthful about it. [00:09:04] Speaker 03: I'm just following what Brady and Acas say, which is to begin the chip away at it, and more than that here, with circumstantial evidence. [00:09:13] Speaker 03: This is the judge's primary decision below. [00:09:18] Speaker 03: He is ruling that Leach was already under investigation. [00:09:23] Speaker 03: before the referral was made to the IG. [00:09:26] Speaker 03: We know, number one, that Bailey said in an affidavit, that's not possible. [00:09:31] Speaker 03: It can't have been done. [00:09:34] Speaker 03: Under the Minsk policies, it can't have been done. [00:09:36] Speaker 03: Yet in the affidavit, Mr. Bailey started out by saying, I commissioned, I initiated administrative investigation against him on the 7th. [00:09:48] Speaker 03: Except he can't do that. [00:09:51] Speaker 03: It can't be done by him. [00:09:54] Speaker 03: It is only the people at the very top who can do that. [00:09:57] Speaker 03: That's one. [00:09:57] Speaker 03: And we know, and this is part of, I think, a very significant part, that when a district court or any court looks at summary judgment, it has to examine the whole record, not just part. [00:10:12] Speaker 03: One of the things that the district court did not look at was that simultaneous [00:10:19] Speaker 03: When Mr. Leach was being subject to investigation, Chief Dickerson, an African-American woman who had filed an EO complaint against David Modell, she was placed under administrative investigation when her, sorry, her employees, all of them, many of them, 10, 15, 20, complained about a hostile work environment toward her. [00:10:44] Speaker 03: And when the deputy, [00:10:47] Speaker 03: One of the deputy mint directors, Mr. Peterson, became aware of that. [00:10:53] Speaker 03: He directed Mr. Bailey to do a cultural assessment, which is just a very low level thing. [00:10:58] Speaker 03: Mr. Motel got on the phone with Mr. Bailey and ordered him to place Chief Dickerson under administrative investigation. [00:11:07] Speaker 03: When she was cleared and O'Connor and Bailey wanted to return her, Motel ordered them not to. [00:11:16] Speaker 03: When that happened that way, they gave affidavits in the EOKs that were false. [00:11:24] Speaker 03: And they said she was returned to her position, even though Modal had said, don't ever return her to her position. [00:11:32] Speaker 03: There was other things, too. [00:11:34] Speaker 03: There was that Mr. Leach's [00:11:37] Speaker 03: duties, the most responsible ones were taken away first for a year and an on an involuntary detail. [00:11:44] Speaker 03: There was no reason he couldn't have been given good work to do. [00:11:49] Speaker 03: He was a grade 15. [00:11:51] Speaker 03: No one ever said he was not technically capable. [00:11:55] Speaker 03: No one ever has. [00:11:56] Speaker 03: In fact, I believe they admitted it. [00:11:58] Speaker 03: He has given an affidavit that he had so little to do a declaration, so little to do. [00:12:04] Speaker 03: that he was watching CNN a lot of the time, some of it. [00:12:08] Speaker 03: There was nothing else for him to do. [00:12:10] Speaker 03: And when they involuntarily detailed him, he was working way below his pay grade. [00:12:16] Speaker 03: All of these things, if you were legitimately doing this to somebody, you wouldn't basically destroy the job that he occupied in violation of mint and treasury policies, which is not denied. [00:12:30] Speaker 03: You would not be doing all of these things. [00:12:32] Speaker 03: Can I say someone else sat in a meeting and decided that this was, you know, the question is not whether someone else sat in a meeting. [00:12:43] Speaker 03: The question is, was there an administrative investigation before the referral to the Inspector General's office? [00:12:50] Speaker 03: That's the question. [00:12:52] Speaker 03: And there's no evidence of that. [00:12:53] Speaker 03: And what there is direct evidence of, it really is not even subject to a burden shifting analysis. [00:13:00] Speaker 03: It is direct evidence that the chief counsel said, it's an EEO complaint with the potential to affect and mint negatively. [00:13:09] Speaker 03: We have to refer it to the IG because the IG wants to clear up things for the new administration that actually wasn't even sworn in at that time. [00:13:19] Speaker 03: That's when O'Connor chimed in and said, we should refer it. [00:13:22] Speaker 03: It's their potential here for criminal misconduct. [00:13:26] Speaker 03: There is no evidence that another investigation was commenced before then. [00:13:31] Speaker 03: And in fact, Bailey gave an affidavit of that once. [00:13:35] Speaker 03: And when in litigation it became clear that that hadn't happened, the government changed what it said. [00:13:42] Speaker 03: The government even said, and I may add this, it's undisputed, [00:13:47] Speaker 03: that when Mr. O'Connor was in touch with the EEO counselor, and they asked him what would have been done if the IG didn't pick up the case, he said we would conduct what's known as a routine management inquiry. [00:14:00] Speaker 03: He did not say that we, as the government's position is now, that we had already decided to place him under administrative investigation. [00:14:10] Speaker 03: It's just shadow boxing that goes on again and again. [00:14:14] Speaker 03: And I believe [00:14:17] Speaker 03: that what the district court did below was an error and not to be done because it picked things out of the record that supported them. [00:14:28] Speaker 03: We have the testimony of Mr. Modal at the meeting where the chief counsel said, you know, let's send this to the IG and O'Connor chimed in its criminal misconduct, except O'Connor testified that he was never there. [00:14:44] Speaker 03: And he testified in, he even testified he never met with them. [00:14:51] Speaker 03: Bailey said when he suspended, when he suspended, or he proposed to suspend Bailey, I'm sorry, when he proposed and O'Connor put it in place, all they were doing was following through the IG's recommendation to suspend him. [00:15:05] Speaker 03: They did what it proposed. [00:15:07] Speaker 03: They did no such thing. [00:15:10] Speaker 03: IG's office is government wide, do not do this. [00:15:14] Speaker 03: They give facts, and they let the agency decide. [00:15:17] Speaker 03: That's where the record went on here. [00:15:23] Speaker 02: All right. [00:15:24] Speaker 02: If my colleagues don't have any questions, let's end it there, and we'll give you a couple minutes. [00:15:31] Speaker 02: Thank you. [00:15:44] Speaker 01: May it please the court, Jeremy Simon for the appellee. [00:15:49] Speaker 01: Mr. Leach does not dispute that the type of allegations raised by Mr. Medina, ongoing hostile work environment over an 18-month period, meet the serious misconduct threshold under the Minsk policy or a formal administrative investigation. [00:16:05] Speaker 01: Mr. Leach, in response to Judge Wilkins' question, I believe, did not dispute that the OIG criteria [00:16:13] Speaker 01: for reporting potential abuse of authority to the Office of Inspector General was met here. [00:16:20] Speaker 01: By opening an investigation, the Office of Inspector General confirmed that its criteria, in fact, had been met. [00:16:29] Speaker 01: Whether the Mint officials relied on the OIG directive or not as a material, their action was consistent with what that policy stated and was consistent with how the OIG itself [00:16:43] Speaker 01: treated this matter. [00:16:46] Speaker 01: Now, there is no exception in the administrative investigation policy that misconduct allegations should be ignored because the alleged harasser had favorable performance ratings. [00:17:01] Speaker 01: Mr. Medina's allegations of what he claims to have experienced under Mr. Leach are not diminished by Mr. Leach's prior ratings. [00:17:11] Speaker 01: There's no exception under the administrative investigation policy that misconduct allegations should be ignored based on whether or not a supervisor believes the allegations or not. [00:17:23] Speaker 01: Now, the record reflects that Mr. Bailey considered the allegations to be serious. [00:17:29] Speaker 01: And that is the reason for the referral. [00:17:35] Speaker 01: And ultimately, it's more fair [00:17:39] Speaker 01: to Mr. Medina, Mr. Leach, and Mr. Leach's management for this to be an administrative investigation done by a neutral third party. [00:17:55] Speaker 01: Now, Mr. Leach also had been warned in November 2014 that hostile work environment would not be tolerated. [00:18:04] Speaker 01: And Mr. Medina's allegations suggested that Mr. Leach was not complying with that. [00:18:09] Speaker 01: So the only way to determine how to address this issue about Mr. Leach was to investigate and find out. [00:18:16] Speaker 01: Now in terms of the OIG referral, Mr. Medina's allegations in the context of Leach's past history elevated those allegations to potential abuse of authority and then IG agreed. [00:18:32] Speaker 02: So friend on the other side says that [00:18:36] Speaker 02: There's reason to, I guess, doubt that they really considered the matter that serious. [00:18:51] Speaker 02: And one of the points that he just made was that I think he said that O'Connor testified that [00:19:00] Speaker 02: They were not present at this meeting while others said that O'Connor was. [00:19:06] Speaker 02: Can you just factually tell me what the record demonstrates on that one? [00:19:13] Speaker 01: Yes, so the record reflects that Mr. O'Connor briefed Mr. Modal about his intentions and briefed Chief Counsel Gentry. [00:19:25] Speaker 01: Where there is an inconsistency is whether [00:19:29] Speaker 01: Mr. O'Connor met with Modal and Gentry together or separately. [00:19:35] Speaker 01: But the substance of what was communicated is not in dispute. [00:19:39] Speaker 01: Mr. Modal didn't take a position. [00:19:43] Speaker 01: Chief Counsel Gentry gave guidance that was consistent with referring the matter to the IG. [00:19:57] Speaker 01: See if I can help the court with the record here. [00:20:00] Speaker 01: JA 395 to 97, and also JA 484 to 488 are the approximate pages, I believe, where that chronology is laid out. [00:20:16] Speaker 01: But we lay it out in our brief as well. [00:20:20] Speaker 01: So fundamentally, you have [00:20:22] Speaker 01: reason basis for a referral based on objectively serious allegations. [00:20:27] Speaker 01: You have an IG making an independent determination to investigate, and then you have an independent IG investigation. [00:20:34] Speaker 01: I'd like to, if I could, address points that Mr. Selden made. [00:20:41] Speaker 01: First, this issue about whether Mr. Leach had been placed under an administrative investigation on January 9th, 2017 when he got back from holiday leave. [00:20:53] Speaker 01: Mr. Leach admits in response to the Local Rule 7-H statement, which is at SJA 346, that what he was told was that Mr. Bailey intended to request an administrative investigation. [00:21:11] Speaker 01: In terms of [00:21:13] Speaker 01: Mr. O'Connor, Mr. Selden saying that Mr. O'Connor admitted somewhere that had the IG referred it back to the Mint, only a management inquiry would be conducted. [00:21:25] Speaker 01: That's not reflected in any of the competent evidence in the record. [00:21:28] Speaker 01: There's a contemporaneous email from January 9th, January 10th time period in which there's a specific reference to duties while you're under an AI. [00:21:41] Speaker 01: And again, as I've already mentioned, and that's at JA 376 to 77. [00:21:47] Speaker 01: And as I've already mentioned, Mr. Leach has admitted that what he was told on January 9th was an intention to place him under an AI, not that he was already technically under one. [00:22:03] Speaker 01: In terms of the Dickerson administrative investigation that Mr. Leach, I'm sorry, Mr. Sellen references, [00:22:10] Speaker 01: Ms. [00:22:10] Speaker 01: Dickerson was alleged to have committed and created a hostile work environment. [00:22:14] Speaker 01: And administrative investigation was initiated. [00:22:17] Speaker 01: But it was initiated before Ms. [00:22:19] Speaker 01: Dickerson had ever engaged in EEO activity. [00:22:22] Speaker 01: That's at SJA 484 and 497. [00:22:29] Speaker 01: So that doesn't establish that any retaliatory motive. [00:22:34] Speaker 01: That actually runs contrary to an argument that there was retaliatory motive at play. [00:22:38] Speaker 01: And listen, the court has any further questions. [00:22:43] Speaker 02: What's your response to the intentions about the, I guess, this guideline not being produced in the district court and not having the opportunity to respond? [00:22:59] Speaker 01: Well, that order is publicly available. [00:23:01] Speaker 01: And I'm not familiar with any motion being made in the district court to preclude use of that document or to strike it from the government's summary judgment filing or to seek some sort of discovery sanction where the document cannot be used. [00:23:19] Speaker 01: So I don't think that is an issue that's before this court. [00:23:22] Speaker 02: Thank you. [00:23:24] Speaker 01: Are there any further questions? [00:23:26] Speaker 01: We'd ask that the court affirm the judgment below. [00:23:36] Speaker 02: All right, Mr. Selden, you think you were over time, but we'll give you two minutes. [00:23:40] Speaker 02: Thank you. [00:23:41] Speaker 03: This is what I'm saying about the government very desperately handling this case. [00:23:49] Speaker 03: Government counsel said that there is a document, an email confirming that Mr. Leach was put under investigation, administrative investigation on January 9th, and he pointed to page 376. [00:24:05] Speaker 02: Your colleague said, was told that that was the intention, not that he was placed into. [00:24:13] Speaker 03: Oh, correct. [00:24:15] Speaker 03: That's what your colleague said. [00:24:18] Speaker 03: That's not up to him, though, is the point. [00:24:20] Speaker 03: And the fact is, we also know that Mr. Bailey concealed from Mr. Leach until March that he had been referred to the Office of Inspector General. [00:24:31] Speaker 03: This is part of concealing the process that went on. [00:24:36] Speaker 03: excuse me, that's just part and parcel of that. [00:24:42] Speaker 03: When they're talking about Dickerson and not having filed an EEO complaint first and it couldn't be retaliation, it's in, I don't remember which brief, but that she filed more than one complaint. [00:24:54] Speaker 03: And she was complaining about retaliation. [00:24:58] Speaker 03: The only thing I will do with the moment or two I have left is simply clear something up. [00:25:04] Speaker 03: We noted this in our Rule 28J letter about how there was something wrong in the reply brief, and we noticed later that it was in this opening brief as well. [00:25:18] Speaker 03: On page 23 of the reply brief, contrasting the situation with Porter, where it said things that pretend serious career consequences without tangible harm are actionable under Burlington Northern [00:25:31] Speaker 03: What it should say on 37 of the reply, I'm sorry, 23 of the reply brief, 37 of the opening brief should say low level disciplinary actions are not actionable and discipline is not imposed. [00:25:45] Speaker 03: And it's very important. [00:25:46] Speaker 03: Sorry for not having gotten it straight. [00:25:48] Speaker 03: We picked it up as we were going. [00:25:51] Speaker 03: All right. [00:25:52] Speaker 02: Thank you. [00:25:52] Speaker 02: We'll take the matter under both.