[00:00:00] Speaker 01: 17-2309 [00:00:44] Speaker 01: Jackman yes sir you may proceed sir [00:01:13] Speaker 02: May it please the court. [00:01:14] Speaker 02: My name is Norman Jaclyn and I represent the appellant, Brian Dana Hay, who worked for nine months and nine days for the postal service. [00:01:26] Speaker 02: Complained to them that the truck he was required to use was leaking fumes into the cab. [00:01:33] Speaker 02: He was told if he wanted to keep his job, he had to keep driving the truck. [00:01:39] Speaker 02: He needed the money. [00:01:40] Speaker 02: You could say that he was kind of [00:01:42] Speaker 02: dumb to do what he did, but that was the problem he faced, either lose the job or keep driving the truck. [00:01:49] Speaker 02: So he hoped for the best, and at the end of nine months and nine days, he was diagnosed with brain injury from breathing in carbon monoxide. [00:01:59] Speaker 02: This case involves nine months and nine days' worth of earnings by Mr. Dana Hay. [00:02:07] Speaker 03: Isn't the issue before us simply the timeliness of his [00:02:13] Speaker 03: Yes, I'll address that right now. [00:02:16] Speaker 02: About 19... 2015, he had his... I guess it was his third case against OPM at the Maryland Assistance Protection Board, and this time the administrative judge ruled in his favor and [00:02:40] Speaker 02: It went up on appeal to the board itself and they ruled against him. [00:02:45] Speaker 02: My entry into this case came years before that. [00:02:50] Speaker 02: And when this circuit ruled in Grover versus OPM, your honor may remember the case involved OPM's calculation of retirement annuities. [00:03:05] Speaker 02: And they said they used deductions to the retirement plan. [00:03:10] Speaker 02: uh, in order to calculate backwards what the person's earnings were. [00:03:16] Speaker 02: And, uh, I had argued at the time and the court agreed with me that there was never a statute in the history of this country that authorized OPM or anyone else calculate backwards in order to determine what the statute describes as three highest consecutive years of earnings. [00:03:37] Speaker 02: And consequently, after the Grover case was decided, I filed yet another case with Mayor's System Protection Board, not based on appealing the two-year-old case, but rather based on the Grover decision. [00:03:52] Speaker 02: And I have with me its supplemental appendix, page 22. [00:03:59] Speaker 02: Let me understand this. [00:04:01] Speaker 04: Is it your contention that there was good cause here for [00:04:08] Speaker 04: um, filing, delaying in the filing of your appeal to the board more than 18 months after the expiration date for appealing from the OPM decision because the federal circuit issued the Grover opinion. [00:04:26] Speaker 04: And so therefore that's good cause for the delay. [00:04:28] Speaker 02: No, I don't. [00:04:30] Speaker 04: What is the good cause for the delay? [00:04:32] Speaker 04: There was no delay after the Grover case. [00:04:35] Speaker 04: No, no. [00:04:36] Speaker 04: I mean, as I understand it, the [00:04:38] Speaker 04: The OPM issued a decision in May of 2015. [00:04:41] Speaker 02: Yes. [00:04:42] Speaker 04: And then you filed your appeal from that adverse decision in February of 2017. [00:04:48] Speaker 04: No. [00:04:50] Speaker 02: No? [00:04:50] Speaker 02: What I filed was not an appeal. [00:04:52] Speaker 02: It was a new case based on the fact that they were still, every month, violating the law and violating the COVID decision by paying them the same amount and never recalculating it. [00:05:05] Speaker 04: The appeal to the MSPB in February 2017. [00:05:10] Speaker 02: Yes. [00:05:11] Speaker 04: You're saying it wasn't an appeal from the 2015 OPM decision, it was something else? [00:05:17] Speaker 02: That's right. [00:05:19] Speaker 02: Really, I may have mentioned it, but in my appeal to the MSPB, it was strictly based on the fact that the law was changed in the Grover case, and therefore, [00:05:35] Speaker 02: when they kept paying him every single month the same money as they were paying him beforehand, at the very least every payment is a new cause of action. [00:05:44] Speaker 02: And it was based on that. [00:05:49] Speaker 04: My understanding is that the regulation that sets forth the deadline for appealing from an adverse OPM decision is 30 days from the decision itself. [00:06:00] Speaker 04: Yes. [00:06:02] Speaker 04: 30 days from every time an annuitant receives an annuity check. [00:06:10] Speaker 02: Well, my response to that is that the payment of the next check after Grover's decision was itself a violation because it was still based on deductions and was never based on his actual earnings. [00:06:29] Speaker 04: Could you have refiled something at the OPM itself rather than filing this? [00:06:35] Speaker 04: Well, we want to call it a cause of action or an appeal to the MSPB. [00:06:44] Speaker 02: This was the fourth case we filed against OPM. [00:06:48] Speaker 02: And frankly, a client brain damage says to me, I think they're waiting for me to die. [00:06:54] Speaker 02: It gets kind of disgusted. [00:06:57] Speaker 02: Four cases, several times they said, we'll reconsider. [00:07:02] Speaker 02: And then they reconsider sooner or later, months and months later, and they affirm what they hadn't said in the first place. [00:07:10] Speaker 02: We ran out of patience in feeling that we should do anything further with OPM. [00:07:17] Speaker 02: I've got correspondence from OPM telling me one thing for two years in a row and then changing it after the second year. [00:07:27] Speaker 02: 180 degree difference. [00:07:30] Speaker 02: So I've been afraid to bother with them because my clients, and I have several with the same kind of situation, they're ill. [00:07:40] Speaker 02: And this isn't the only client to say to me, I think they're waiting for me to die. [00:07:46] Speaker 02: So that's why I filed a new case with MSPB seeking, based on a violation of what had been decided in Grover, based on [00:07:57] Speaker 02: new payments. [00:08:00] Speaker 03: But the MSPB is not the place to file new claims. [00:08:07] Speaker 02: No, I don't mean a claim. [00:08:08] Speaker 02: I filed a case against OPM at MSPB for underpaying his annuity. [00:08:15] Speaker 03: The MSPB is not where you file a case. [00:08:20] Speaker 03: It's where you file an appeal. [00:08:23] Speaker 03: Where you file a claim is elsewhere, maybe before OPM, maybe before an agency, maybe before somebody else. [00:08:33] Speaker 03: But the MSPB is a board of appeals. [00:08:39] Speaker 02: So what you're saying then, Judge, is that I have to go back or had to go back to OPM and start this routine again. [00:08:49] Speaker 03: That'd be true. [00:08:50] Speaker 03: I mean, you couldn't file a new claim here, for example. [00:08:53] Speaker 03: No, that's right. [00:08:55] Speaker 03: Why? [00:08:55] Speaker 03: Because we're a court of review, and that's the same for the MSPB in the agency context. [00:09:02] Speaker 02: Well, I appreciate the thought, Judge. [00:09:04] Speaker 02: I'd just like to get it straight. [00:09:06] Speaker 03: That's why you're here in this dilemma, because you filed whatever it is you claim you filed 19 months after an earlier decision, and the board [00:09:19] Speaker 03: treated that as an untimely appeal. [00:09:21] Speaker 02: That's exactly what they did. [00:09:24] Speaker 02: Judge, ten years after he was diagnosed with brain damage, and he still hasn't gotten it settled, and OPM just plain stalls every way they possibly can. [00:09:39] Speaker 02: I know you can't relax the rules. [00:09:42] Speaker 03: Yeah, I mean, I'm sympathetic to your client, but [00:09:49] Speaker 02: You know, rules are rules. [00:09:53] Speaker 02: And I have to go back to OPM with the question and appeal any adverse decision. [00:09:59] Speaker 02: They usually take a year or two before those cases are over and that's the problem. [00:10:05] Speaker 02: But I understand what you're saying and I accept that. [00:10:08] Speaker 01: Okay, let's hear from Councilor Weir. [00:10:29] Speaker 00: Good morning. [00:10:30] Speaker 00: May it please the court? [00:10:32] Speaker 00: I'm not quite sure how to respond to Petitioner's argument just now, because what we have is a case in which he filed 19 months late after OPM specifically told him. [00:10:46] Speaker 00: And if you look at the supplemental appendix at 24, you'll see where OPM specifically said, you have 30 days from the date of this decision to file your appeal. [00:10:58] Speaker 00: And he waited 14 months. [00:11:00] Speaker 00: He bring up the Grover decision. [00:11:04] Speaker 00: The Grover decision is not relevant to what we're dealing with today. [00:11:08] Speaker 00: Grover decision, in terms of how it was calculated, is talking about the merits, the underlying merits of this case. [00:11:15] Speaker 00: But assuming for the moment, he could tie the Grover decision into the time in this issue. [00:11:21] Speaker 00: The Grover decision dealt with a customs officer who was being calculated on a specific [00:11:28] Speaker 00: regulations and on a specific statute. [00:11:31] Speaker 00: So it's not relevant because it was dealing with overtime, as opposed to the appellant here is dealing with a part-time situation. [00:11:41] Speaker 00: So it's not relevant to what we're dealing with. [00:11:43] Speaker 00: The only issue before the court today is whether or not the appellant filed his appeal in a timely manner. [00:11:50] Speaker 00: And if he didn't, and I don't think there is any dispute that he did not file it, [00:11:54] Speaker 00: At least he did not file it within the 30 days from the date of the OPM decision, so whether or not he showed good cause. [00:12:01] Speaker 00: He mentioned brain damage. [00:12:03] Speaker 00: The pellet did not show or did not bring any evidence to the board to show under the LACER decision that his brain injury prevented him in any way from filing a timely appeal before the board. [00:12:21] Speaker 00: Pelham's attorney mentioned today that he was filing a new case. [00:12:25] Speaker 00: In these types of cases, a continuing, I think he's trying to say that there was a continuing violation. [00:12:32] Speaker 00: However, in this type of case, there's no such thing as a continuing violation, specifically when OPM gave a specific direction that the decision was issued on a certain date. [00:12:44] Speaker 00: You have 30 days from this date to file your appeal, and he failed to do so. [00:12:49] Speaker 00: I think he cannot come now and say, [00:12:52] Speaker 00: He filed a new case. [00:12:53] Speaker 00: Of course, the board didn't consider the new case. [00:12:56] Speaker 00: And quite frankly, I don't think it was because I don't think the board was in a position to consider a new case at that point because OPM did not issue a new decision on reconsideration because he didn't go back to OPM. [00:13:10] Speaker 00: So I don't believe that he met his burden to show good cause for the 19 months filing. [00:13:17] Speaker 00: And even if he wanted to use the Grover decision, [00:13:20] Speaker 00: As his basis to say, I have a new cause of action, he still waited six and a half months after the issuance of the Grover decision to file his appeal. [00:13:30] Speaker 00: So he still would have been late. [00:13:32] Speaker 00: So we believe the board correctly found that he did not show cause for the 19 months delay in filing his appeal. [00:13:42] Speaker 00: We feel that he did not show that there was any type of illness that prevented him from filing the appeal. [00:13:50] Speaker 04: So is it your view that what the appellant ought to do is refile a claim at the OPM to say, in its view, there was an intervening change in law called Grover on how to calculate annuities. [00:14:08] Speaker 04: So please, OPM, reconsider your annuity calculation for me. [00:14:15] Speaker 00: I don't know if he can file that. [00:14:17] Speaker 00: What I do know, [00:14:18] Speaker 00: is that he didn't file with the board on time. [00:14:20] Speaker 04: No, I understand. [00:14:22] Speaker 04: Let's just assume for the moment that this was out of time to appeal to the board. [00:14:28] Speaker 04: But then my question is, what is his next course of action? [00:14:32] Speaker 04: If he genuinely believes that his annuity calculation is currently wrong under the law, could he at this point, even though he's made prior claims at OPM, make a new claim at OPM at this point? [00:14:48] Speaker 00: I don't know the answer to that. [00:14:50] Speaker 00: He could try. [00:14:51] Speaker 00: In my opinion, I don't know whether or not OPM would say he's untimely. [00:14:57] Speaker 00: I don't know how the OPM would rule on that. [00:14:59] Speaker 00: He could try to go to OPM to say each time he gets a decision, it's the wrong calculation. [00:15:07] Speaker 00: I don't even know if the calculation is incorrect at this point. [00:15:10] Speaker 00: But that would be a step that he could try. [00:15:13] Speaker 00: I do know that if he [00:15:16] Speaker 00: Any time you go to OPM and OPM issues a reconsideration decision, OPM will give that individual a right to come to the board and appeal that decision to the board within a timely manner. [00:15:29] Speaker 00: And OPM generally, I mean, it could miss something. [00:15:32] Speaker 00: But usually, and I haven't seen where OPM did not, and it certainly did not in this particular case, OPM will say in its appeal rights, this is a final decision. [00:15:42] Speaker 00: You have x number of days. [00:15:44] Speaker 00: 30 days from the day of this decision to come. [00:15:46] Speaker 00: He can try. [00:15:47] Speaker 00: I don't know how far he would get with OPM. [00:15:50] Speaker 01: Okay, Mr. and I think we have your government Thank you so much unless you have other questions for me. [00:15:56] Speaker 01: No, thank you. [00:15:57] Speaker 02: Thank you Mr. Jackman You had run out of time, but I'd like to hear your concluding just very briefly When the man came to me he was getting a net pay monthly of three dollars and 49 cents a month He couldn't afford a lawyer [00:16:13] Speaker 02: and i agree to take his case to the mspb uh... and appeal it to the board if i had to and to go no further than you know i could afford to come here he couldn't pay me but that's i understand your sympathy your honor and uh... and i understand what you're saying i will refile and appeal with opium and i expect that i'll wind up back here next year we wish you the best of luck thank you judge [00:16:41] Speaker 01: This court is now in recess. [00:16:42] Speaker 01: Thank you.