[00:00:00] Speaker 03:
Ray Martin.

[00:00:32] Speaker 03:
Mr. Pol, please proceed.

[00:00:36] Speaker 00:
May I go second?

[00:00:37] Speaker 03:
Oh, OK.

[00:00:39] Speaker 03:
Ms.

[00:00:39] Speaker 03:
Nelson, please proceed.

[00:00:43] Speaker 02:
Good morning, Your Honors.

[00:00:44] Speaker 02:
May it please the Court?

[00:00:45] Speaker 02:
We're a little perplexed by Martin's decision not to present an argument.

[00:00:52] Speaker 02:
It's his appeal.

[00:00:54] Speaker 02:
We've never really had the situation where they have not waived argument and yet decided not to present an argument in the first instance.

[00:01:02] Speaker 02:
Given that, the government or the director is comfortable with resting on the briefs unless the court has questions for me.

[00:01:10] Speaker 02:
No questions.

[00:01:10] Speaker 02:
Thank you, Ms.

[00:01:11] Speaker 02:
Nelson.

[00:01:17] Speaker 01:
My rationale, by the way, of going second is I feel like the Patent Office has the burden of proving a prima facie case.

[00:01:24] Speaker 01:
And I'm here to answer any questions.

[00:01:29] Speaker 03:
No, I don't think so.

[00:01:30] Speaker 03:
Okay, we thank both counsel for their argument.

[00:01:31] Speaker 03:
The case is taken under summary.